Awsten Knight is never nonetheless. The Waterparks bandleader continually busies himself, working extra fluidly when he’s being artistic — whether or not by writing new songs, selling the band through all-caps social media posts, or dreaming up vibrant streetwear for his clothes model hii-def. Naturally, the band have turned their consideration towards a brand new undertaking: INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY 2: LOST IN THE PROPERTY — a correct companion to final 12 months’s wildly experimental INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY. Whereas the unique revenge anthem “FUCK ABOUT IT” featured a gut-wrenching verse from blackbear, the brand new reimagining, “FAI2,” faucets their former FANDOM tourmate Zeph, who provides a contemporary spin to the observe. Within the phrases of Knight, the brand new model “takes the good elements about what [they] each do and merges them,” so we put the duo in dialog.
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Collectively, they discover the creation of the brand new track — together with some important trivia. Zeph, for one, made Knight depart the room earlier than laying down her verse, whereas the Waterparks frontman recorded the barking noises reside, fairly than counting on a pattern. In addition they discover time to plot out (dangerous) PR stunts, broaden Otto Wooden’s “serial killer” lore, and mull over making a full-length film that includes Carly Rae Jepsen. As ever, although, their levity is buoyed by a years-long friendship as they reminisce on their first assembly, their want to higher themselves, and their mutual admiration for each other.
AWSTEN KNIGHT: After I first discovered of you, I used to be having breakfast with Joel [Madden], and he was like, “Dude, this woman’s superior. It’s best to actually try her stuff.” And I used to be identical to, “Rattling, you are proper about all of this.” I additionally keep in mind the primary time that we met.
ZEPH: Oh, my God, I used to be so awkward.
KNIGHT: You have been simply quiet, however you are at all times quiet so no matter. It was on the FANDOM tour. You got here out to the Baltimore present, and that is the primary time that we would met. However all proper, I’m going to leap in with a query. Did you fuck with Waterparks at first? Did it take a second to develop on you, or do you not like Waterparks in any respect?
ZEPH: I had heard of Waterparks, and I really had saved a track on one among my playlists, however I did not make the connection till later. I solely began actually listening to your music after the present.
KNIGHT: I keep in mind after the present you have been like, “I’ve by no means seen that many individuals crowd surf.” And I used to be like, “Yeah dude, they go laborious right here.” However let me ask you this: We have talked about being onstage and touring a bunch, however did it make you need to play exhibits? What was the vibe if you noticed the present? Often once I see somebody play, I am like, “Fuck, I want I used to be enjoying proper now.”
ZEPH: After I see individuals play, I get extra impressed. I begin pondering of concepts — what would I do? The “Cherry Crimson” opening lives in my head, and I take into consideration the right way to open live shows massive like that now, regardless that I’m scared to carry out. Now I’ve a query: Should you had a vast funds for a “FUCK ABOUT IT” music video, what would you do?
KNIGHT: Limitless.
ZEPH: Limitless.
KNIGHT: I might straight up simply make it a film. I might have us do a complete full-length film, nevertheless it’s nearly the entire Otto [Wood] serial killer factor…
ZEPH: God. Nope.
KNIGHT: Simply dangle on. It is a film about it that is additionally bought factual info in it. Info after which factual details about Otto and his crime. Throughout his ultimate homicide, the place he begins to be caught by the police, we play the bridge of “FUCK ABOUT IT” — the true heavy half. When the credit roll, that’s when the precise track premieres. It’s form of Halloween-y, in a method.
ZEPH: On the finish, after the entire full-length film.
KNIGHT: Sure, with Carly Rae Jepsen lip-syncing it subsequent to the credit. Limitless funds, we will afford it. I additionally assume the video that we made goes to be actually fucking loopy. The whole lot that I’ve seen to this point, it is trying so good. What’s a reminiscence that you’ve got of doing this observe collectively?
ZEPH: Properly, I wouldn’t allow you to hear me sing.
KNIGHT: Oh yeah. A memorable second through the recording of it was undoubtedly you being like, “I’ll file now, and you must depart.” And I used to be identical to, “Shit high quality. So long as it occurs, I am comfortable.” I got here again in and listened, and I used to be like, “Fuck yeah.”
ZEPH: For me, I additionally keep in mind watching you file the barking half reside. It was attention-grabbing.
KNIGHT: The factor is, I attempt to not use samples or different individuals’s stuff if I haven’t got to. Simply because the much less of it that you just do, the extra no one may have the sounds that you just’re doing.
ZEPH: With the canine toys.
KNIGHT: I do have canine toys. I believe it is high quality. I believe all people ought to have a canine toy as a deal with. However anyway, subsequent query. Should you might describe our collaboration in three phrases, what would they be and why?
ZEPH: The primary three that come to thoughts is a very long time coming.
KNIGHT: That is really very reasonable as a result of we had talked about doing this for years, and I had despatched you guitars earlier than, and also you had despatched me vocal layers earlier than, however we would by no means completed a correct function.
ZEPH: And y’all don’t do plenty of options, so I am honored.
KNIGHT: It is true. 100%. I actually solely do options for those who I’m actually simply pals with. You already know what I imply? I do not know should you get these, however typically I get DMs from individuals the place I am identical to, “How do you even learn about us?” The place they’re like, “What do you cost for a function?” And I am identical to, “I am not doing this. I do not know you. I do not need to be linked to you.”
ZEPH: Do not need to pull a Drake “Wah Gwan Delilah.”
KNIGHT: I imply, possibly we should always cowl that. That might be our subsequent collab… After I hear songs, they’re at all times little moments or points that I get very enthusiastic about — whether or not it is part of an instrumental, a piece, or one thing that occurs to transition. What are your favourite moments on this observe?
ZEPH: Properly, to not toot my very own horn, however I actually just like the strings. The entire track is a special vibe from the unique. I really feel such as you bought loopy with it. You understand how as soon as you are taking an image and also you deep fry it?
KNIGHT: You assume deep-fried fuck about it. That is enjoyable. It matches in a bizarre method. I like that it goes from hyper-futuristic to completely orchestral, after which it begins merging the 2, after which it simply will get heavy as shit.
ZEPH: I additionally just like the scream sound on the finish. It feels like a dentist drilling right into a tooth. There are plenty of brain-tickler moments.
KNIGHT: It takes the good elements about what we each do and merges them.
ZEPH: So lots of my songs swap genres within the center. I even have a bunch of songs I am making from my album, and there is one among them that switches genres three or 4 occasions. I’ve a query associated to this. How do you stability staying true to your creative imaginative and prescient whereas collaborating with another person?
KNIGHT: I believe I’ve mentioned this earlier than, however I really feel like I was extra protecting, the place I am like, “No, nobody can contact something.”
ZEPH: That is form of how I’m.
KNIGHT: It is tremendous affordable to be that method, particularly if you’re so used to having to look out for your self like that. I’ve completed periods the place I can inform the early on, “Oh, these writers simply don’t care.” It makes you get a protect round you virtually. So to reply the query, I really feel like that is one more reason I like working with pals a lot. It’s such a trusting course of, the place somebody’s going to allow you to do your factor but in addition recommend enhancements. Whenever you’re working with individuals that you just additionally respect as an artist, then it makes you extra relaxed.
ZEPH: You belief them to not make the track horrible.
KNIGHT: Yeah. I used to be keen to depart the room as a result of I used to be like, “Hear, Zeph could be very fucking good. I’ll go get a espresso.” Then I got here again, and I listened, and I used to be like, “Yeah, this slams one hundred percent.” Do you assume we’ll collaborate once more sooner or later, and if that’s the case, what sort of tasks would you envision?
ZEPH: We bought to make that film. Should you might have a 3rd function on the track, nevertheless it must be acoustic, who would you could have featured?
KNIGHT: Oh man, that is actually laborious. The issue is I might need it to make sense acoustic, so I am instantly like, “Let’s get Demise Cab on this.” However the factor is, my life can be higher if I had any form of Donald Glover collab.
ZEPH: It’s best to hit him up.
KNIGHT: I do not need him to know I exist. I’ve met so many individuals that I like that at this level, I simply need to have a couple of that also have mystique round them.
ZEPH: Yeah, that is sensible. It’s bizarre. I will go to a celebration and simply hang around with and speak to somebody that I used to be begging my sisters to get me signed vinyl from them two years in the past. What recommendation would you give to aspiring musicians based mostly in your experiences?
KNIGHT: There are such a lot of angles and so many issues that individuals would want recommendation on as a result of it consumes every part you do. I really feel like I might reply this one for the subsequent three days, however I believe one of many extra normal issues I might say relies on a dialog I had a few months in the past the place this dude that I do not know got here as much as me and was speaking to me about music like, “I’m simply making an attempt to get began. How do you become profitable with this?”
That is simply not the query that you need to be asking. There’s a lot to it, and should you’re actually in it, it will be demanding, and there is going to be peaks and valleys, and it will totally eat you. Should you actually like it sufficient, it’s a must to determine that it is value it. It’s important to do issues that you’d do at no cost, and the one method you are going to succeed is should you do it since you like it and you’d simply do it it doesn’t matter what. There are anomalies and issues come and go, and typically issues have a flash within the pan, however for essentially the most half, you simply should hold doing it — do it daily since you actually like it. You’ve got simply bought to be a lifer with it. Present up daily and do not instantly count on to be profitable as a result of nobody outdoors of Houston actually knew who we have been for 4 years, and that is with us selling virtually daily. It is a very gradual, lengthy factor. Should you’re in it strictly to win it, it ought to be a facet factor.
ZEPH: I really feel like I simply bought so fortunate although. I take into consideration how laborious y’all promoted Waterparks for therefore lengthy, and I really feel like I did not do something to get right here.
KNIGHT: Typically being tight is simply sufficient. And fortunately, there’s additionally the issue of you do not have to be a social individual to achieve sure methods. Should you simply log on and publish cool issues, individuals will observe you. Individuals will observe your journey in the event that they identical to you. It is such a giant issue of leisure in the present day, and it is good and dangerous.
ZEPH: It is also simply actually cool that I bought to collab with someone that is my buddy and who I look as much as.
KNIGHT: Hell yeah. Persons are really going to shit over this. Truthfully, I did not know individuals have been going to love “SOULSUCKER” as a lot as a result of that one, to me, wasn’t single materials. This appears like a single and a cool track. It has each of these issues. So I am identical to, “Rattling, if individuals like that one, they’ll freak over this.”
ZEPH: Loopy. Shout out Zakk [Cervini].
KNIGHT: Shout out Zakk. That blend is ridiculous. One factor I’ve realized is engaged on issues alone versus in a studio, I will hear issues otherwise. Simply doing something in entrance of different individuals or displaying someone else a track or a demo. Whenever you’re engaged on it by yourself, you are like, “That is the shit.” However then you definately test it out within the automobile with a buddy, and also you’re listening to it with them proper there. You are like, “Oh, I sang that slightly bizarre. I can do this higher.”
ZEPH: You possibly can enhance.
KNIGHT: Yeah, I hear with a barely extra essential ear if someone else is round. You need to push your self extra. I used to do sizzling yoga on a regular basis. However the motive I wished to go to a spot with a bunch of different individuals doing it was as a result of if I am residence, there will probably be occasions I let myself fall, but when I am round a bunch of individuals and no one else has gone down, I am like, “No goddamn likelihood. I am not going to be the primary one.”
ZEPH: Extra stress to be good and to attempt.
KNIGHT: Sure. You give your self extra leniency by yourself, however you need to be at your greatest, at your peak round different individuals, particularly if you realize that they are good at what they do. That is undoubtedly an element for me. Once we have been engaged on it, I am like, “I do not need to suck. I need to be actually good.”
ZEPH: Assist me give you a PR stunt to advertise the track,
KNIGHT: It is “FUCK ABOUT IT.” We pay 5 pc individuals to obtain each porn video on the web, re-upload it, and all of them have the track enjoying within the background. I imply, that is a reasonably stable transfer proper there. And that is simply off the dome.
ZEPH: We wanted an growth on the Otto lore.
KNIGHT: Certain. How about this? The subsequent track, the subsequent advertising marketing campaign is Free Otto. After we put him in jail.
ZEPH: My God. You possibly can flip him in.
KNIGHT: He’s already turned in, so it is like we have advised everybody. He is gotten all his telephone calls, like mother and father, members of the family, and other people he is aware of in actual life referred to as him about it apparently. Let’s simply say we save Otto from loss of life row. That is our subsequent stunt. We put him in jail, however now we’re going to free him as a result of we’d like him for Lollapalooza. Do not fry him but. He must play “Silly For You.”
ZEPH: We talked about potential clear variations of the track whereas capturing the visible. What are a few of your favorites?
KNIGHT: The perfect clear model is the BYU model. Soak about it. However what about this? We drop a model that simply does not have the phrase “fuck” in it. We depart it clean and let different individuals fill it in.
ZEPH: We should always simply put out a model the place we take out that phrase.
KNIGHT: All concepts are good concepts.
ZEPH: I am undecided about that.
