“I am not yanking on shriveled-up cow balls,” Bunnie Xo says.
Oh, the locations our dialog goes once we sync as much as talk about the Dumb Blonde podcast host’s memoir, Stripped Down: Unfiltered and Unapologetic, out now.
Bunnie’s multitasking — she’s in the midst of a two-hour model becoming — however has me belly-laughing about life on her 500-acre Nashville-area farm with husband Jelly Roll. Extra particularly, the time they castrated their bull, Crunch. It concerned wrapping wire across the bull’s testicles, then — once they didn’t naturally fall off — twisting off the “stiff leather-based satchel.”
Finally, Bunnie (actual identify: Alisa DeFord) discovered the duty so “disgusting” she punted it to her finest pal. She did, nonetheless, get rid of the leftover components. The place? “I threw them into the freaking forest,” says the 46-year-old.
Her expertise with farm life supplies levity to a deeper dialog a couple of life that has, frankly, been terrible at instances. She had an abusive childhood. Her first profession was in intercourse work. There was relationship abuse. Dependancy. Arrests. Being pregnant loss. Infertility. Despair. Suicidal ideation.
“I did not need to sugarcoat stuff,” says Bunnie, who definitely doesn’t in her memoir. “The place’s the lesson in that? I need folks to learn it and take a look at it as: She was a horrible human. She admits to it. However she would not keep in it. She went on this journey of constructing herself higher.”
She doesn’t spare herself within the telling — or anybody else for that matter.
“If folks needed me to speak higher about them, then they need to have handled me higher,” she says. “I’m not saying I am a sufferer. I am not saying I did not deal with folks terribly myself, however at the very least I admit to it.”
That bluntness defines the autobiography — and, because it seems, her marriage.
Bunnie met Jelly Roll (actual identify: Jason DeFord) at a Moonshine Bandits live performance in 2015. Neither of them was the particular person they’re right now. She was a high-end name woman. He had his personal historical past: After stints in jail for aggravated theft and drug dealing, amongst different prices, he was attempting to launch a singing profession.
Bunnie Xo was supported by Jelly Roll on her Stripped Down: Unfiltered and Unapologetic ebook tour cease in Nashville on Feb. 22, 2026.
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He was already in a development mindset, although. The primary time Bunnie tried to sleep with him, he resisted, insisting they first talk about their long-term objectives, which they sealed with a pinky promise. She says he was by no means judgmental of her occupation, particularly after studying how a lot she was paid. (Per the ebook: $1,000 for dinner; something intimate beginning at $5,000.)
Bunnie continued her intercourse work after they eloped in Las Vegas in 2016 as a result of it paid the payments. She retired from being a name woman in 2020, shifting to OnlyFans as a substitute, the place she made her first million. She formally give up all intercourse work in 2022, because of the success of her podcast — to not point out Jelly Roll’s rise in nation music.
I ask how they set boundaries round her intercourse work once they have been married.
“On the road, there are completely different units of guidelines than there are in actual life — or ‘sq.’ life,” Bunnie says. “It was at all times understood between us that it was only a job. I by no means combined enterprise with pleasure. It was like an appearing job.”
For them, it was about autonomy, not secrecy.
“My husband by no means put stipulations on me,” she says. “That is one factor I’ve beloved about [him]. He is by no means tried to alter me, and I’ve by no means tried to alter him. We simply let one another evolve — and ended up desirous to be higher people for one another.”
It doesn’t imply their relationship is ideal.
She writes about feeling damaged after discovering “J,” as she calls him, had a 10-month affair early of their marriage. Their marriage wasn’t undone by the intercourse: Whereas they don’t have an open marriage, it’s what she describes as “free,” which may contain different ladies — however it was rocked by his dishonesty about it.
“Everyone’s at all times fast to say, ‘Oh, I might have left,’” says Bunnie, who was beforehand married two different instances. “That is simple to say. Was it unsuitable what he did? Completely. However I am completely satisfied that state of affairs occurred as a result of it was one other catalyst in our fairy story — of transferring ahead, of getting by way of, of studying how to decide on one another.”
She provides, “As a result of actual marriage is waking up and selecting that particular person. Even once they get in your nerves. Even when you do not really feel such as you’re in love with that particular person. You’re nonetheless waking up day after day, selecting that particular person.”
Bunnie compares her arc — from Las Vegas-based escort to Hollywood crimson carpets — to the 1990 movie Fairly Girl, albeit along with her personal revision.
“Fairly Girl was this stunning fairy story of a working woman who finds a person who saves her,” she says. “My story is extra about me. I discovered an amazing dude, and we saved ourselves. We modified collectively. We grew collectively. Components of my ebook weren’t at all times stunning, however ultimately, we do get the completely satisfied ending.”
That transparency, she believes, is why followers root for them.
“There’s at all times going to be naysayers and trolls, however the world has been so accepting,” she says. “I feel it is as a result of we’ve been 100% trustworthy for the reason that starting. There weren’t any gotcha moments. Something that anyone is aware of about my husband and me, we’ve informed them. Whether or not they used it as ammo [or not], they heard every part from us. It was by no means a shock.”
Nonetheless, success hasn’t erased self-doubt. I ask if she’s had any “You’re clearly within the unsuitable place” moments like Julia Roberts’s Fairly Girl character did.
“My girlfriends and I went to Rodeo [Drive] to fulfill my husband the opposite day,” she says. “[He] can stroll into any high-fashion retailer in sweats and a T-shirt … and no one has a difficulty with it. However we had simply left the health club and, I do not know, I felt so misplaced. I feel I’ve extra imposter syndrome than something. It is onerous for me to rub shoulders with folks, as a result of I am identical to, How am I even right here?”
The couple on the Grammy Awards on Feb. 1, the place Jelly Roll received Greatest Modern Nation Album. In his speech, he stated he would have been “lifeless or in jail” if it weren’t for Bunnie.
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Marrying Jelly Roll additionally made Bunnie a mom to his daughter, Bailee, 17; they’ve full custody of the teenager. (Jelly Roll additionally has a son, Noah, 9, whom they chorus from discussing publicly.) The couple has been attempting to increase their household by way of IVF. They have already got a surrogate and hope to have twins.
She says present process IVF has “introduced me nearer to God. It has taught me to lean on God and belief the method — that this life is a journey and every part’s on God’s watch, not ours.”
Whereas she as soon as explored occult practices, corresponding to having witches carry out spells for her, “as I acquired into this IVF journey, it actually turned me away from all of that,” she says. “After I get up within the morning, I speak to God. I simply speak to him like he is my homie, as a result of I actually really feel like Jesus is a cool dude.”
She’s defining that relationship in her personal approach, as she tends to do.
“I do not consider in organized faith,” Bunnie explains. “I am nonetheless on my journey with a church. I do not discuss this very publicly. I do not like the best way some church buildings are run and the way the folks within the congregation act with one another. That does not imply that each church is like that, however I feel you possibly can love God and have fellowship with [him] in your own home [and through] your phrases and your actions on this planet. There’s extra to having a relationship with God than sitting in a church.”
Religion anchors the couple of their total glow-up that has been years within the making: Her rising platform with Dumb Blonde and this ebook. His latest Grammy win and give attention to well being. They’re wholesome. Hopeful. Intentional.
“We have by no means been right here,” she says. “We’re excited. That is what we sat down and dreamt in regards to the first night time we have been collectively — our five-year plan. We’re like: ‘What’s subsequent?’ Anytime one thing occurs, we simply take a look at one another, like little children, going, ‘Are you kidding me? That is loopy. What’s subsequent?’”
