Scowl seem on the quilt of the Fall 2023 Difficulty. Head to the AP Store to seize a replica, in addition to an unique vinyl variant of Psychic Dance Routine, restricted to 100 copies.
“It’s a fickle factor to wish to be identifiable but really feel strangled by the concept of being boxed into one singular id,” says Kat Moss, the lime green-haired frontwoman of Santa Cruz hardcore outfit Scowl. It’s a heavy, trustworthy sentiment she throws out, one felt by many hard-working artists within the business, and definitely past. It’s such a truism that we see, and listen to, from Moss and her band that has allowed them to straddle being each a band’s band and an viewers favourite since their begin. In actual time, Moss and her bandmates — Malachi Greene, Mikey Bifolco, Bailey Lupo, and Cole Gilbert — are making their approach by Europe on tour, celebrating their anthemic third EP, Psychic Dance Routine, and sharing their defiantly charged sound and devoted, expressive stay efficiency with a world that every single day is accepting hardcore additional into their hearts.
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Observing the wave that’s heavy music and the hardcore scene crashing down on a wider viewers than ever earlier than, Scowl sit at its crest. Because the launch of their first self-titled EP in 2019, the group have garnered consideration and acclaim from these inside the neighborhood and past, accruing followers like Put up Malone and Travis Barker, various legends the band’s members grew up listening to and venerating themselves. In 4 brief years, they’ve discovered themselves in a collection of pinch-me moments — from a DM of admiration from Fred Durst that led to a gap slot touring with Limp Bizkit to a shoutout from Hayley Williams on her podcast All the things is Emo. For the band, and the Santa Cruz hardcore scene they got here from, it’s been a whirlwind that’s all too straightforward to get swept up in. Nevertheless, they’ve made certain to recollect the place they got here from.
For the quilt story, Different Press adopted the band round their beachfront hometown on the eve of the European leg of their tour. Whereas on the street, keen to specific their gratitude and reignite inspiration new and outdated whereas juggling time zones and exhaustion, Moss and Greene conversed with yet one more Scowl fan-cum-alternative icon and private hero — who additionally occurred to be touring — Frank Iero, guitarist of supergroup L.S. Dunes and My Chemical Romance.
First off, thanks for taking the time to reply these questions. I do know this may be an thrilling expertise but in addition a bit soul-sucking on the similar time. Additionally, I’m flattered to have been requested to do that with you. I’ll strive my finest to not waste your time or make you would like you by no means requested me.
KAT MOSS: Thanks for taking the time to provide you with such considerate questions! We’re so grateful, particularly contemplating how difficult it’s to seek out time to do that stuff when on tour, taking good care of bodily and psychological well being, and simply being a human!
In different interviews I’ve seen, I do know most members of Scowl have been in different bands across the scene, however Kat, if I’m not mistaken, you mentioned that is your first band. How did the connection between members come to be? Why did you’re feeling this was the band? And what, if any, have been your expectations when beginning Scowl?
MOSS: Appropriate! Everybody had at the least a number of years of expertise enjoying in DIY hardcore bands — besides me! The one musical expertise I beforehand had was highschool choir. I met Malachi (guitar) and Cole (drums) round roughly the identical time. They have been enjoying in a band I really like from Santa Cruz known as Jawstruck. I had all the time wished to be in a band. I simply didn’t know the way that actuality would unfold. I used to be lively within the Bay Space/Northern California hardcore scene for a bit over a yr, usually going to exhibits alone. I really met Malachi at a Gilman present in Berkeley! It didn’t take lengthy for me to confide in Malachi and categorical my curiosity in enjoying in a band. I had zero expectations apart from a number of “bucket record” objectives. This was my mindset:
- Play exhibits with our mates: Drain, Gulch, Sunami, Palms of God, Jawstruck, No Proper, and so forth.
- Perhaps even open for a few of my favourite hardcore bands like Gorilla Biscuits or Terror!
- Tour as a lot as attainable
- Play my favourite hardcore fest, Sound and Fury!
- Play a present at 924 Gilman
- I imply it once I say I actually had no concept what was in retailer for us when it got here to our alternatives.
Music is a good looking and fascinating vocation. It’s coveted by many and misunderstood by extra. Some individuals who do it for a dwelling by no means anticipated it to be their major job, and lots of who would do something to be the place we’re won’t ever get the shot they deserve or are hoping for. Was this one thing you all the time wished to do together with your lives? If not, what has been your ardour? And lastly, if for some cause the flexibility to play music was taken from you tomorrow, what would you wish to do together with your remaining days?
MOSS: I may by no means determine what precisely I wished to do with my life rising up. All I knew is I needed to be in a inventive profession. I struggled in class and by no means graduated highschool. The message I obtained from the world was that I didn’t have many choices. So I all the time imagined myself as an artist, whether or not that be a passion or a job. For a very long time, music felt like a membership I simply didn’t get invited into, one thing I’d solely devour — by no means take part. Daily I’m stunned and endlessly grateful to play music in any respect! If I wasn’t in a position to play music, I’d prefer to pursue trend design, work in illustration, or change into a make-up artist.
Was there a selected present or band you noticed that made you wish to begin enjoying music or say, “Rattling, I should be up on a stage doing that”?
MOSS: I apologize for the way cliche that is going to sound, however My Chemical Romance was that band for me! Scenes from the Life On The Homicide Scene documentary really feel burned into my mind. It left an enormous impression on me and led me inevitably down the road of punk and hardcore bands. I found Black Flag, Lifeless Kennedys, [and] Unfavorable Strategy and fashionable bands like Ceremony, Energy Journey, [and] Incendiary. I consumed all the things I may: books, zines, documentaries, even defunct web boards. I wished to leap in a van with a bunch of my mates, scream, sweat, and dance in random basements or VFW halls. I went to numerous live shows and Warped Excursions, however DIY exhibits have been essentially the most inspiring to me. Any band may rise up there and do it! That was big for me. I didn’t should be technically good or proficient as a result of that wasn’t the purpose of punk music.
Rising up in New Jersey, the shadow of the Misfits loomed giant, as did the NYHC scene, however then sooner or later so did The Sopranos and Jersey Shore. So folks would hear the place my band was from and anticipate these caricatures of the issues they heard about on TV. Admittedly, once I hear Santa Cruz, my mind instantly goes to skateboards and Misplaced Boys. However I’m certain there’s a lot extra… What do you would like folks knew about the place you’re from, slicing your tooth within the Santa Cruz scene, and what are belongings you wish to cease seeing in article titles or props in proposed picture shoots?
MOSS: I really like the truth that you introduced this up! I’m not even from Santa Cruz, and whereas I’ll wave the flag proudly, I gained’t deny being a transplant on this metropolis. I really like the sunny seashore, browsing, and boardwalks, however I don’t really feel it connects a lot to my id or Scowl’s id. Typically I develop uninterested in go-go boots and daisies. I simply attempt to see it as a possibility to strive one thing new. It’s a fickle factor to wish to be identifiable but really feel strangled by the concept of being boxed into one singular id!
MALACHI GREENE: It’s robust to say as a result of I really like all these issues! I don’t thoughts them being staples for the city. I grew up skating and browsing, and it’s for certain an enormous a part of the city. I want extra folks knew Killer Klowns from Outer House was filmed right here. I want extra folks knew the struggles of Santa Cruz and the rising houseless inhabitants as a result of wage hole, lease will increase, and lack of psychological well being help for these in want. It’s painted as a sunny city with a seashore and boardwalk, however there’s struggles for many who stay right here that get missed usually. So many individuals listed here are pressured out due to how onerous it’s to make ends meet. Plus, so many individuals purchase up properties for trip, and there’s already a scarcity of reasonably priced housing. I really like Santa Cruz, and it’s a good looking place, however loads will get brushed beneath the rug that shouldn’t, and there must be extra help for the houseless and people battling psychological well being.
I think about your band will get requested loads about what your emotions are or what you’re feeling your position is in female-fronted hardcore or with femininity being represented within the style. I do know there’s a lot to be accomplished and mentioned earlier than equality is definitely achieved in all features, however I ponder if you’re getting uninterested in answering these forms of questions and need you possibly can simply be seen as a band first. Or do you’re feeling just like the floor has not but been scratched and it’s partly your responsibility to proceed the dialog?
MOSS: I feel two issues might be true. I do discover it tiring when it’s the one factor a stranger can converse to me about, however that exhaustion doesn’t imply I wish to silence the dialog altogether. When Scowl began, I wished to put in writing lyrics about my expertise, however not pigeonhole myself! It was scary at first to stroll that tightrope. I really feel it’s all of our private responsibility to query the way in which we expect and understand these invisible constructions, whether or not that be having the dialog or discovering assets to teach ourselves, and I’m not afraid to assist get the engine began on that. Lastly and most personally, I wish to be perceived as a musician earlier than “a lady in a band.”
I really feel I is likely to be a bit older than everybody in your band, and with out making an attempt to sound just like the man who needed to stroll by two miles of snow uphill in each instructions to see his favourite band play… I do bear in mind vividly that again within the day when a band determined to develop, evolve, and alter up their model, the loud shrieks of “SELLOUT!” could be hurled from the lips of everybody within the room.
Nevertheless, as of late it appears to be far more embraced by the followers. With bands like Title Struggle (as I’ve heard you point out in previous interviews as an affect or at the least being a fan of) taking followers on a lighter journey into extra melodic and shoegaze-type feels, do you discover it to be a better street incorporating extra melodic singing into the band’s sound? And Kat, do you discover it to be a bit extra liberating to now have a distinct model of singing which you could incorporate into your repertoire as a musician and songwriter?
MOSS: The scene has positively change into a bit extra open-minded and welcoming to bands making an attempt new issues, new kinds. It nonetheless leads to a type of chatter, however nothing in comparison with the tales I’ve examine! Thank god.
I discover it to be extraordinarily liberating to strive new issues vocally and melodically! I’m nonetheless discovering my voice, and there could be no pleasure in enjoying in a band if I denied myself the chance to experiment and be impressed by different genres and writing kinds. All of my favourite artists problem themselves, and I like that about them.
GREENE: Folks will all the time speculate on what promoting out is, however we’ve all the time been true to ourselves and accomplished what we’ve appreciated to do. I’m certain folks say we have now bought out for including extra melody! Bands have been including melody and experimenting with style for the reason that begin. Unhealthy Brains, Hüsker Dü, 7 Seconds, Biohazard, and lots of extra have accomplished genre-bending songs or albums approach earlier than us. We’ve grown as musicians, and we’re ready so as to add different influences as a result of we realized to play a bit higher. If we didn’t evolve, it’d be stale. I feel individuals are extra open-minded now, and I feel that’s due to bands earlier than us, like those listed earlier than, and extra present bands like Ceremony, Code Orange, Title Struggle, Turnstile, Trash Speak, Angel Du$t, and extra who broke the mould and did shit their approach. I really like the creativity happening as of late.
Rising up, there have been sure labels that my mates and I grew to become followers of as in the event that they have been bands. The standard management was so good, and the neighborhood they cultivated was so refined that it ensured each time a brand new report was launched or a brand new band was signed, you possibly can nearly assure it will be one thing that you possibly can get behind and would dig. As of late with labels like Triple B, Closed Casket, and your present residence, a label like Flatspot, I used to be questioning when you felt such as you have been part of one thing comparable or paying homage to that?
MOSS: One thing I really like about hardcore is that I can depend on phrase of mouth or a DIY label to point out me the way in which! I completely really feel just like the torch has been handed down with this unstated custom. Our subculture is sacred to us; I hope that feeling near bands and the folks enjoying the music by no means dies since you don’t get that with many different scenes. Creating these bonds is such a selected factor that makes it really feel totally different and particular, sheltered away from mass consumption or the challenges of the music business.
With what looks as if such a quick and fixed rise to your band, what are your favourite objectives you may have achieved with Scowl? Are there any that also stay? Do you may have a plan in place to realize these objectives? Does that one way or the other contain an endgame or an ending to the band?
GREENE: Actually, my solely purpose was to play exhibits with my mates once we began. I wished to tour and see new locations. As we did that, issues began taking place, and funky alternatives arose that we couldn’t imagine have been taking place! Taking part in Sound and Fury, to me, appeared like the most important factor on the planet, and I cherish that reminiscence dearly. Taking part in MSG on the Limp Bizkit tour was one thing I by no means thought would occur, and I’m nonetheless coming to phrases with the truth that we obtained to play there. Even assembly a few of my favourite bands on the street or [at] fests we’ve performed collectively. I wish to tour far more and proceed to develop as a musician and as a band.
I’ve plenty of objectives now, however within the begin, I used to be simply studying how one can play guitar and carry out. There are plenty of bands I’d like to tour with and locations we haven’t performed but. The plan is to maintain working at it till we get there. No finish sport deliberate for the band, and to be trustworthy, I hope it by no means ends. For the primary time in my life, I really feel completely happy and a part of one thing optimistic. I hope to maintain that going for so long as attainable.
MOSS: Sure issues have occurred scarily quick in Scowl’s world! I’m actually completely happy we obtained to play Sound and Fury in 2022. That’s an enormous private milestone… Taking part in Coachella was additionally stupidly insane. Touring abroad, help excursions with a few of my favourite bands, writing an LP, even quitting my job to tour full time all fall on the record of favourite accomplishments. I’m a really goal-oriented individual, in order I’ve checked off packing containers, I’ve added extra, touring Japan being on the prime of the record, writing and recording LP 2, and to all the time do issues that might make my youthful self proud. 13-year-old Kat wouldn’t imagine being on the quilt of AP or being in a band for that matter!
I don’t see an finish in sight, and since we by no means solely had a plan, I’m simply having fun with the trip and discovering magnificence in each a part of the expertise, even the robust stuff like stress and vulnerability. I wish to do that so long as it makes me completely happy. On the finish of the day, it’s about all the time discovering gratitude.
